Dating the book revalation
This is why they won't address Ken's monumental work.
Before Jerusalem Fell is a scholarly and thorough study of the dating of Revelation.
Edersheim held that the many allusions in Johns Gospel and the book of Revelation to aspects of priestly service in the Temple inferred that John had close association with the priestly line (John John -16) and that the Temple was still in service at the time both books were written. While we might concur with Edersheims observations concerning Johns knowledge of priestly duties and the allusions found in his works, all that seems to be necessary is for John to have had such knowledge at some point during his life. Moreover, Ezekiel, like John, is told to measure the Temple he sees in his vision.
These [allusions] naturally suggest the twofold inference that the book of Revelation and the Fourth Gospel must have been written before the Temple services had actually ceased, and by one who had not merely been intimately acquainted with, but probably at one time an actor in them. Clearly, the Temple was in operation during the times recorded by Johns Gospel (John John -19). Ezekiel received news of the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in Ezekiel Eze. Even if Herods Temple were to have been standing at the time John wrote, the Temple he mentions in Revelation Rev. After all, Zechariah, writing during the Second Temple era, described a Temple future to his day.
But does Johns acquaintance with the Temple necessitate that its service was contemporaneous with the writing of the book of Revelation? We discuss these issues in greater depth in our discussion of Nero. Significantly, Zechariah also mentions measurement in association with the revelation he was given. In each case, the interpretation of the evidence is either flawed or overstated. 70 (in fulfillment of Jesus prediction)the Roman emperor Vespasian and his son Tituswere not destroyed but returned to Rome in triumph carrying vessels from the destroyed Temple. Thomas Ice, The Great Tribulation is Future, in Kenneth L. Carson notes, by the time the Romans had actually desecrated the temple in A. 70, it was too late for anyone in the city to flee. Ibid., 138.
The obvious answer is, no. Any writers knowledge is cumulative: it is often the case that a writer expresses knowledge gained from an earlier point in his life. Further, there is no reason why direct revelation from God, as is the case with the book of Revelation, might not convey details not previously known to the prophet. ); Third , the number of the name of the Beast (Rev. -18 ) matches that of Caesar Nero. While it is true that similarities can be found between the final Beast of world history and Nero (or many other anti-Christian leaders of history), similarity does not prove identity. What is probably considered to be the most significant internal evidence for a pre-A. 70 date by early date advocates is Johns mention of a Temple in Revelation Rev. In both of these Old Testament prophetic books a Temple is mentioned that is not in existence at the time the author is writing. The internal evidence which early-date advocates assert as proof of a pre-A. At most, the evidence makes a case for the possibility of a pre-A. 70 date, but cannot be taken as objective evidence of this as a necessity. The text that Jesus cited concerning the Temples desecration, Dan. , predicts that the one who desecrates this Temple will himself be destroyed. Gentry and Thomas Ice, The Great Tribulation: Past or Future? By then it would be too late for the followers of the Lord Jesus to escape; the Romans had already taken the city by this time. The name which fits the circumstances most admirably is that of the nefarious Nero Caesar. Kenneth L.
According to Irenaeus recollection, Polycarp saw "it" sometime in AD 95-96, during the last part Domitian's reign.
Dating the Book of Revelation There is considerable disagreement among students of Revelation as to when it was written.
Cindye Coates We are about to see why it is essential to interpret Scripture with Scripture vs. With the dating of Revelation, we establish the true historical prospective.In part, this teaching arises from the belief that all direct workings of the Holy Spirit ceased at the destruction of Jerusalem.Consequently, all of the writings we have which comprise our New Testament would have to have been written prior to this date.Well intentioned people then set out to force Revelation into a time frame which is not in conflict with their belief that all divine inspiration ceased with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.First we'll deal conclusively with the belief that all divine inspiration ended in 70 AD with the destruction of Jerusalem.